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she is joining us this morning from iowa. paul steinhauser joining us. he is the new hampshire political reporter at the concord monitor. .ay, we will start with you elizabeth warren making a stop in several places, and iowa. how was she received? she sort of set a marker down for the other candidates to follow in 2019. she had large enthusiastic crowds, overflow crowds. she will later today be meeting with a group of women to talk about issues. she is primarily focused on western iowa and central iowa. the thing that people don't know about the iowa caucus is this is a race for delegates. if you run up the score in the state's urban areas, that does
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you no good if you don't go any -- if you don't get any votes in the rural areas. in her first trip, she has gone to traditionally republican areas and rural areas. host: can you tell us off the top of your head, in addition to senator warren, who else of the potential democratic side have you seen through the state? guest: it is a long list. among the senators, senator booker was here. senator harris was here in the months leading up to the general election. western state governors. governor ainslie from washington. montana's governor. colorado's governor. the list is voluminous. the mayor of south bend, indiana.
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u had the mayor of los angeles here as well -- you had the mayor of los angeles here as well. host: we will turn to new hampshire next and paul steinhauser joining us this morning. we had a caller earlier mentioned that senator warren is set to come to the state. who have you seen so far? we know cory booker has been there. to test theahead waters? guest: it has been a long list like kay mentioned. a lot of potential contenders dating back to 2017. that is when the early moves started. in the last six months, we have seen everybody except for kamala harris and. we have not seen warren yet. the of this state, most of population of new hampshire is in the boston media market. they are familiar with warren
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and we will see her in the next week or two. billy once we have not seen has been vice president joe biden. he has not stepped foot in new hampshire since april 2017. as for who is coming soon, we will see julio castro soon. daysbly just three or four after he will announce his candidacy for the presidency. we will also have washington governor jay inslee as well as john delaney. he is the former three term congressman from maryland who back in july of 2017 announced his candidacy for president just six months into the trump white house. he will be back for his 13th or 14th trip. host: we started the conversation this morning talking about viewers and for 2020' choices candidates. we will broaden that out. if you're a democrat, call (202)-748-8000.
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republicans, call (202)-748-8001 . independents and others, (202)-748-8002. talking 2020 presidential candidates for the next hour or so. we will start back with paul steinhauser and ask you, what has changed politically, aside from having a republican president. has the landscape changed at all in terms of how candidates approach campaigning in new hampshire? kay we will come to you momentarily with the same question. guest: new hampshire is famous for its retail politicking. small house parties, or the candidates get to know the voters and the voters get to know the candidates. new hampshire has been the first in the nation primary state. the centennial is coming up next year. in recent cycles, just like everywhere else, it has become a
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little more nationalized. people are getting their news not just from the local newspapers and television stations anymore. everything is becoming more national. even that is affecting new hampshire. what is different for the democrats this year, they are much more energized. they had a very good 2018. they were not able to recapture the governorship but they did take back both chambers of the state legislature and they are energized going into the 2020 primary cycle. host: kay henderson, we will pick up with you on that had -- on the energy. you are seeing it in iowa as well. guest: 2018 gave democrats in iowa a mixed result. they had incredibly good federal elections. iowa has four members of congress. they flipped two seats from republican to democrat and now the delegation is three democrats and one republican.
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that one republican, kyrsten steve king who wound up winning -- congressman steve king who wound up winning by less than 3%. at the federal level, great news. democrats did not take back either of the iowa house or senate. they lost the governor's race. it was a mixed bag. point after the election, there seem to be restiveness among democrats. with this war and visit and what's ahead -- with this war visit and what's ahead, there is a crucial senate race here and they are hoping the energy from the presidential sweepstakes that will be played out on the ground will be beneficial to the democratic nominee. henderson, news
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director for radio iowa. paul steinhauser is new hampshire's political reporter. we are taking calls from across the country. we will start with chicago on our democrats line. caller: good morning. i have a couple questions. is trump's approval rating like in iowa? secondly, it is kind of a comment and question. of info thatt trump is unbeatable. i am not understanding where that i -- where the ideas coming from. the lost the vote of the american people. how does that make him unbeatable when we just flipped michigan and wisconsin? host: the president's approval rating and how he plays in iowa. guest: there has not been an
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approval rating taken since the government shutdown. a rating that was measured in december might be misleading. we do not know how that is playing with iowa republicans, democrats and independents. iowa republicans are firmly behind president trump. the chairman of the iowa republican party has attacked fellow republicans who have questioned trump's leadership, namely nebraska senator ben sasse who has often been offered a critique of the president. in december, when i interviewed the chairman, he said all are welcome to come here. iowa republicans will have a caucus on february 3, 2020. if senator sasse wants to come here and challenge president trump, he is welcome to do so.
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leadership, party they are not canceling the caucuses. also senator flake would be welcome, the former senator and former governor john kasich who both notably spent time in new hampshire but have not set foot in iowa. host: paul steinhauser in new hampshire, give us the polls of the president's popularity there. guest: we have not seen any polls here just sash polls here since just before the midterm election. among republicans, 83% approval rating. it is a good question when it comes to if there is a primary challenge against the president. if there is one, new hampshire is going to plea -- going to be the place where it is going to start. john kasich, very well known here, came second place to donald trump. he came back twice to the state last year including that trip right after the midterm elections.
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he still has a base of support here. if there is going to be a primary challenge for the start in new hampshire, flake has also been to the state and has made a visit in the past year. there are a lot of trump supporters here, don't get me wrong. there was a push by two of the top trump supporters in the state to change the bylaws of the state republican by party -- the bylaws of the state republican party. there was a push by two of the top supporters to try and change the rule to back the president in the primary. they decided to give up on that after a lot of opposition. interesting times ahead. host: we will hear next from -- guest: i would like to add. host: go ahead quickly. that iowaight add republicans did not hold caucuses in 1992 when george
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h.w. bush was seeking reelection. to the idea that they are not changing the rules here is significant as it is in new hampshire where they are not essentially changing party rules to give the president a pass. host: the iowa caucuses happening february 3 in 2020. we go to joe in missouri. caller: i would like to ask paul why are the northeast states so democrat and so liberal? why is that part of the country of that political persuasion? no one is going to beat trump in the republican nomination, especially sissies like jeff flake, a total punk and so is kasich. someone will to their butts off and they deserve it -- someone will chew their butts off and they deserve it. guest: a lot of the northeast
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votes democrat. new hampshire itself is a very purple state. we have a democratic delegation to congress and a republican governor. that is one of the reasons why we are a perfect place for the first in the nation primary. donald trump by far would be the favorite right now in any presidential primary on the republican side. all that said, if there is going to be a challenge, i could see it starting to form here in new hampshire. host: we will go to larry in cincinnati, talking 2020 politics. caller: thank you for c-span. a guest kind of stole my thunder as a related to other there could be a republican primary. by first question would be to both reporters. is there a gut feeling that there will be a republican
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primary? my position is that i think trump is going to win in 2020. is there any democrat that could west wall?hat trump won ohio, michigan, indiana, pennsylvania, like the whole midwest with the exception of illinois. is there any democrat who can penetrate that? host: lets start with kay henderson. your thoughts? guest: that is an interesting conundrum that will be presented to senator warren. she comes from massachusetts which has produced two recent nominees in john kerry and michael the caucus -- michael dukakis. you have -- saying the party needs to switch to a midwestern eat those and then you have
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westerners like kamala harris and the governors of states like montana and washington state and colorado who are arguing that the mountain west and the west has something to offer, a different kind of approach. that is something that democrats are going to have to sort out. did they want to choose a nominee who comes from a part of the country as sort of a signal or do they want to choose a nominee that will go toe to toe with donald trump? do they have someone who has both of those characteristics? the race is so unformed at this point, it is hard to know. that is the discussion that is happening and an argument that those candidates are turning to make. host: paul steinhauser for that first in the nation primary, is there a sense we could see a field as large as the republican challengers were in 2016?
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guest: we had 17 or 18 back in 2016. right now, there are about 25 or 30 names, democrats who are at least inking about it. it comes to democrats who could win in those crucial midwest states, there are two names. , reaching out to a lot of people in new hampshire and top democrats. i have heard a lot of democrats in the state we need someone from the midwest who can reach out to those kinds of voters. one other name is joe biden who hails from pennsylvania. that was a key state that trump took in 2016. a lot of people that -- a lot of people feel that biden could relate to working-class voters in those states that donald trump took. is notank tweets the rnc
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trump have anyone be a challenger. has the trump reelection campaign started to make a presence in new hampshire? guest: a lot of the same players from 2016 bully back for 2020 in the state. of one of the trump campaign in new hampshire in 2016 is the leading candidate to be the next chair of the state republican party. he has vowed he will stay neutral but he was a major trump supporter in 2016 and could be steering the state party here. one thing about new hampshire is we allow independents to vote in our primary. they can go democrat or republican. that is what makes it such a crapshoot sometimes. that could make it interesting. host: kay henderson, are we
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starting to see if her structure in iowa for the president -- infrastructure in iowa for the president's reelection? guest: absolutely and the president himself has begun to do that. he has had three campaign style rallies in iowa already. he came back in june of 2017 and had a rally and right before the election he had an absolutely bonkers rally, boisterous, well attended by iowans and nebraskans. he has not ignored the state of iowa. he has had several campaign events here. he has campaigned for candidates who actually wound up losing on the republican side. iowa amonghas kept the states where he has a footprint and he will be able to take up a campaign fairly
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quickly. paul steinhauser, go ahead. guest: i just want to add to that, new hampshire is a special place or donald trump. it was his first victory. he won the primary here pretty convincingly over that huge republican field and that boosted him to win the nomination and then the white house. he has only been back here once for a official visit. that was last year. while he has not made in the campaign style visits, he did come back once. host: rick in tennessee, go ahead. caller: i wanted -- i was wondering if either one of you guys had heard of jerry brown. governor --o turn -- two term governor in california. think he would be good. host: let's start with kay
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henderson. are other governors potentially coming into the democratic race? guest: i covered jerry brown the last time he ran for president. he has not set foot in the race. there is a primary among the californians who are putting their toe in the water. the previously mentioned senator, kamala harris. -- a california congressman from the northern part of the state. the mayor of los angeles. you have a california primary among those sorts of folks. already mentioned governor in the. -- governor inslee. he campaigned here in iowa in june, on behalf of the democratic candidate for at a iowand appeared democratic party fundraiser.
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the montana governor has spent a good deal of time here as well. he was traipsing around the iowa state fairgrounds this past august. he was -- he arty knows the lay of the land -- he already knows the lay of the land. you have the governor from colorado. oftentimes candidates like to talk about their connections to the state of iowa. those are the main three governors who have made some inroads here already. host: we will hear from a new england state, next. connecticut. on our democrat line. caller: first of all i would like to say i am embarrassed to see how we are we are having the screaming female out again. i would like to see -- but i
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feel that to win some of the republicans over, we have to put a nail in it. i love sheldon whitehouse. he is brilliant. he had one problem when he went in which i will not even mention. he fixed that. he has no ego which is wonderful in a politician. i do not know enough about his , being ad but i feel political junkie forever, that he should run. that is who i like. host: paul steinhauser, your thoughts? --st: we have not seen: sure but that is an interesting thought. here is another woman who just recently visited our state. , theawaii congresswoman first hindu in congress, and
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iraq war veteran. kirsten gillibrand of new york, just before the midterm elections. just some of the visitors we have had. guest: -- has spent time in iowa. gillibrand has not. cold-ish are -- who won , the weekend 2018 before the election was in iowa campaigning with democrats here. she has spent a lot of time attending party events in a ,eighboring state and iowans like their neighbors, bob dole won the caucus here twice. iowans have an affinity for a neighbor. host: a washington post piece this week ran a political piece.
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the headline is before you run against trump, you have to run against hillary. the question of female candidates. others put it potentially more devastatingly, and she too much like hillary clinton to be the nominee? we will start with kay henderson, the challenges facing women following the defeat of hillary clinton. guest: one of the things that struck me in the 2007 campaign was that barack obama was popular with people partly because of his persona and his change message, but also because there were a number of iowa democrats who did not want to fight the battles of the past. they wanted to move on from the bill clinton presidency and the
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things that they perceived as negative that were sort of hanging over from that. in many respects, hillary clinton was never able to sort of cure that among iowa democrats in that she was seen as a person of the past. one of the things that is most interesting to watch among these candidates as they come and make their case is will iowa democrats be looking for a new face and a new voice or will they be attracted to that person that has already been mentioned? joe biden has been there and done that. elizabeth warren who has been in the u.s. senate for a while and has a longer resume that some of the younger voices that will be heard in the party. i think that is more of the discussion that will be happening among democrats.
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--e to more about philosophy it will be more about philosophy and who they trust to go against trump, rather than the gender issue. host: paul steinhauser, to pick up on that, what will new hampshire writes -- new be talking about, be looking for in an issue, some of the candidates you are already talking about? sure, clinton had a lot of baggage. we will have not just one but likely multiple high-profile female candidates. elizabeth were income as we talked about, kamala harris, klobuchar, it isk whic a different situation than we had in 20 16. almost every
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massachusetts candidate that has come here has done well as far as the primary. that will be an issue for her, but she may be facing off against another neighbor, bernie sanders. remember, he hails from vermont, just to our west. large base a very here. new hampshire voters are pretty similar to everybody else in the country on the democratic side. health care is very important, the environment is very important. the economy and jobs are important. maybe in the state, the opioid epidemic, because it has hit so hard, maybe more so than in other states. like everywhere else in the country, democrats, electability. democrats here, whether they are progressive or not, one thing they say is they want a candidate who can beat donald trump in 2020. that stands out. host: let's get to the call, jason on our democrats line. caller: yes, good morning.
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i want to get your take on andrew gay. he got something. has been around iowa, which i will take off their. host: -- off air. host: kay henderson? guest 1: he has been campaigning in iowa. he has staff on the ground here. his name is not known. him tos a chance for move up. he is an unconventional candidate. he has an interesting resume. it will be interesting to see who can come through when you have the likes of a, let harris, -- of awarren, kamala harris, senator warren. a mr.ot sure someone like
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yang could push through. here this coming week. he will begin eastern iowa. democratsoll of showed him as a mere blip. ranas invested time, he has campaign ads here, notably during last year's super bowl, and still have not been able to break through in this huge field . paul steinhauser, let me ask you, elizabeth warren, her action fund, a joint fundraising vehicle, her own path allowing wealthy admirers to write six-figure checks. according to campaign finance fund raise. warren
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for $.9 million during the 2018 cycle and transferred the vast majority of that to her official senate campaign. our senators a step up because they got money from their previous campaigns? warren: yeah, listen, comes into this campaign with a big war chest already. that gives her a leg up over potential contenders. she is not the only one, though. gillibrand. bernie sanders as well. it is not just the big donors anymore. remember, a lot of the money now comes from online, grassroots online fundraising, which has become a crucial component on the democratic side. one thing, you mentioned andrew yang. he has a small campaign structure here. he isabout yang is proposing a $1000 a month stipend to every american,
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almost like a living wage. he is doing a promotion in new hampshire, giving one granite stater $1000 a month over this year. host: let's go back to 2016 for this tweet. he writes "hillary flew over the flyover states. that is why she lost iowa." what is your take on his opinion of that? guest 1: she actually spent quite a bit of time here. she did campaign in iowa. the state she probably wishes she had made a stop in is neighboring wisconsin, which she never dedicated any facetime to. in fortxt up is bruce meade, maryland, independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. general questions, really, not really campaign oriented.
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as the reporters hear from new hampshire and iowa, there have been a lot of rumblings through the rest of the country that lots of presidential campaigns are set up this way. why iowa caucuses are so important and why new hampshire has the first binary. i know that is -- first primary. i know that is opening a can of worms. i think it is antiquated. i am kind of amazed that we spend so much time in iowa and new hampshire. i do not think that will get an accurate reading for the rest of the country. obviously that is a touchy subject for someone from new hampshire or iowa. host: let's hear from paul steinhauser first. why first in the nation? you said it is 100 years in 2020, right, the centennial. guest 2: exactly. 1920 was the first time new hampshire held the first primary. it really became a factor in the 1950's and more so in the 1970's.
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new hampshire have a lot going for it. first of all, it is a purple state. second of all, there is a level. playing field this is a very small state, 1.3 million people. those candidates with little names. easy to get around. that do notgns have a lot of money, it levels the playing field. the tough questions, they are accustomed to seeing these candidates coming to the states. there have been a lot complaints over the years, and, it is too small, b, it is too white. new hampshire has guarded this tradition over the years, and it continues, and it seems to work. it seems like the candidates like coming here. it also seems like the media enjoys coming to new hampshire. it is an easy place to get it from some of the bigger media centers like new york and washington.
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remember, new hampshire and iowa, their jobs are not to declare the winners, it is more to narrow the field until the bigger states vote, and this time around in 2020, they will have bigger states like california and texas, right after the window of the early states closes. host: kay henderson, why are the iowa caucuses important? why do they continue to be important, in your view? guest 1: one reason they continue to be important is because a person named jimmy carter basically set up shop here and catapulted themselves state by having a win here. he actually won the number of delegates behind the undecided, so that is why on the democratic side something was set in stone. it is a place you can come. don't have a lot of resources? you can make people face-to-face, and you can test in and sort oft an
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living rooms and church basements in a way he would not be able to if you were in a high-stakes state like california. it would be really expensive. you would be flying from tarmac to tarmac, hotel ballroom. it would be a different kind of campaign than it is today. the other reason that iowa and new hampshire our first is has been noe hav agreement among either of the two political parties what the alternative would be. finally, the reason iowa and new hampshire are first, because the person in the white house wants iowa and new hampshire to be first. if there is ever a president elected who does not appreciate the system by which he or she was nominated and elected, it will be fruit basket upset, because the two parties tend to have nominating systems that mirror one another.
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iowa democrats and republicans have voting on the same night, as do the folks in new hampshire. in my view, what has kept iowa and new hampshire first. you have obama in the white house, you had george w. bush in the white house, both of and won the iowa caucuses saw it as valuable to keep it that way. host: let's hear from jerry in new jersey on the democrats line. good morning. caller: good morning. , everybody. democrat.istered i voted for obama, and i voted for trump. something democrats had better have is the radicalism of the party. when you listen to the cursing, the calling trump a "nazi," calling his supporters "toothless" -- it is amazing how far the democratic party has gone down. as long as they continue to do that, they are going to lose
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support. i will never vote democrat as long as i see these people out there. they are racist. i mean, they really are racist. host: let me add on to that, a different view where the democrats are. "what happened to the democratic antiwar platform? i do not hear any new candidates talking about it. was it just a political lever when arms were in power?" paul steinhauser. guest 2: that is a big question right now. did they go back and pushed back every moment, do they respond every tweet, or do they try to campaign more in the style of barack obama, more inspirational and aspirational? we have a guy called michael avenatti who was thinking of running t for president, and he came here to new hampshire. his message was you have to take
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on trump and play his own gain, takenack at every moment, down by fighting him. some people think that is the way to go. others say no, that is the wrong way to go. if you campaign my donald trump, you become donald trump. it is the question going forward. now some of the declared contenders have different views on which way they should campaign in 2020. host: kay henderson, the democratic messaging you are hearing so far among potential candidates in iowa. said,1: again, as paul there is a debate among the folks who have put their name in the hat as i am thinking about in, ii am dipping my towe might run for president, about how to approach the campaign. do you indeed tweet like the president does, do you use his level of rhetoric, or do you present yourself to voters in a different way? in regards to the antiwar issue, you have democrats out here who
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are mostly talking about domestic policies, and that seems to animateat this point. when i am talking about democrats about what they are looking for in a candidate, they are looking for someone who will be a good competitor, and they are looking for someone to address the message issues. -- address domestic issues. rarely do i hear about the war in afghanistan, the withdrawal of troops in syria, or what is going on with russia. those are not top-tier issues for many of the democratic activists out there. host: let's go to virginia. this is joseph on the republican line. caller: good morning. yes, i would like to say i agree with the lady that call from new jersey. me and my wife used to be democrats all of our lives, but after cricket clinton, crooked obama, when you look at all the
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crimes and bad behavior coming from the so-called democrats, who are not really democrats anymore, they are radical nuts and bullies. trump, and so did my have and so many neighbors switched from the democratic party to the republican party, because they look at all the bad behavior of the democrats. republicans behave through two terms of the most terms of obama without causing problems, but those who voted for trump and believe in america's people and americans 26 years in the military, that is when he burns me up, when he told american law enforcement and militaries to take down the profiles from myspace and this and that and be ashamed of who they are.
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the terrorists have more rights than americans. host: we will let you go there. kay henderson. guest 1: well, i can look to the results of 2018 and compare them to 2016 in two of i was congressional districts. we had to incumbent republican congressman who were representing districts which let's say, trump by, 3% in i was first congressional district, and then they flipped to democrats in this past election. those same voters who elected democrats to represent them in the u.s. house of representatives elected a republican governor. so you really have an interesting dynamic in iowa. that is it is a purple state, it is a swing state. iowa voters tend to split their
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ticket. i think that that is the hallmark of moving forward and sort of on the minds of both political parties here, how do we keep our voters in the old rather than having them split their ticket? ,ost: peter steinhauser democrats who supported trump in stay away from the art, fewer opportunities for democrats to lure people over? guest 2: that is not much of a factor over here. there is a perception, and it is actually reality, the base of the democratic party has become much more progressive over the last few years. that is where the energy is in the party. that is true nationally. that is true in new hampshire. republicans nationally and in new hampshire are feeding off of that. here in new hampshire with a democratically controlled state legislature, the state republicans are labeling them as
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taxist spenders. you will see republicans fireback at democrats as being too liberal. host: kay henderson, a question for you on twitter. in senate race, which is 2020, how much trouble is joni ernst and because of trump? realizing it is early, but your thoughts on that? guest 1: well, we do not have any really interesting polling data to inform our view of this race. when joni ernst was elected in 2014, many people were shocked by her political instincts. she has sort of prison through the ranks of the u.s. senate. she has become a member of a leadership team. by that, she will be out there talking about the gop agenda, talking about the president's her state in some
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ways is tied to the president's state. at this point, in 2019, we do not have a democratic contender who has announced that they will challenge or even think about challenging senator ernest for reelection. former iowa governor tom vilsack is said to be considering it. he had said quite interestingly in december that he does not know if the door is open, closed, or even where the door may be in terms of him making a decision to run against senator ernst. democrats are thinking about who will be best positioned to run against her, who will be able to was anoney, because she incredible fundraiser on her own right for her 2014 race, and she had huge support from outside republican groups who helped her win reelection.
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u.s. senate will be up for grabs, and you will have outside groups who will be sums on all ofe these competitive races around the country. host: we are talking 2020 presidential politics. a little over 10 minutes left for your calls and comments for our guests, o. kay henderson joins us from iowa, news director radio iowa. for steinhauser writes "concord monitor." (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8001 for republicans, and for independents, (202) 748-8002. we have had calls from all over the country, but not quite from new hampshire and iowa. peter steinhauser, go ahead. guest 2: there is also an impact
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here. we have the federal race coming here in new hampshire as well as 2020. allne shaheen, almost announcing that she is running for reelection. the question for a lot of republicans is who is going to run against her? a lot of republicans in the state would love to see former kaylee -- senator kelly ayotte, who narrowly lost her bid. they would love to see her take on jeanne shaheen. my thought is it will not happen. mytte will sit out, and theory is donald trump. stumbled over a question of whether she thought donald trump was a role model, a role model for children. then she ended up voting against trunk, she publicize that, after the "access hollywood" video. so yes, donald trump will
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definitely be impacting not only the top of the ticket but the down ballot races here in new hampshire. host: back to your calls, peter is in massachusetts. caller: thank you for taking my call. -- i thinkomment on theis the jimmy carter of national election. she is only good on two things -- staying true to syria and getting her economic agenda in place. warren, youbeth have got to remember who the governor is -- charlie baker. charlie baker is probably the governor in the country right now. there is no talk about him coming in as president. but for elizabeth warren, last year, a ship showed up. what was on that tanker? washington natural gas. that is very much something
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warren tries to discourage in her discussion on foreign policy. there is talk that there is more gas coming by ship in massachusetts. host: peter, let's go there. thatere even a hint governor charlie baker would challenge president trump in 2020? no reporting on back, and i have no reporting that baker is considering a bid. republicanhistory of governors in massachusetts, which is perceived to be a heavily democratic state. there are a lot of independents in massachusetts as well. governor's such as charlie baker, if you go back to the last decade, mitt romney. there was a big question of the time about whether romney would be too liberal to run for the republican nomination. but no, i have not heard any talk about baker's seeking the
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primary challenge from president trump. host: here is a call out of iowa, randy, go ahead. caller: hi. i just turned on the show a little bit of go, and i heard john bell sex name mentioned against joni ernst, and i think that would be something that i would could use. -- tom a good candidate, name mentioned against joni ernst, and i think that would be something we could use. we need a good candidate to face off against ernst. host: you said she is nowhere near making a decision, right? guest 1: right. for those who do not know tom vilsack, he was a two-term governor, last on the ballot in 2002. he ran for president in new hampshire and then pulled out of the race rather early in 2007,
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and doors then senator hillary clinton. obama invited him to be the u.s. secretary of agriculture, a post that he held for all eight of the obama administration years, so he is well known within democratic circles in iowa and elsewhere. host: lauren in alexandria, minnesota. caller: hi. good morning. and when irs old, was growing up, the women stayed home and took care of the household, and we had a lot better kids and a lot better country, i believe, and i think we need to get back to that. host: we will hear from port charlotte, florida. jim, democrats line. caller: yes. host: go ahead. you are on the air. caller: my point of view is i have lived and voted into countries. i am a democrat in the u.s.
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all this fighting between the we haveies, why don't other parties, like other countries do, is in you might get a better represented group into the government system? will not have to compromise with one or two other countries. host: maybe you pointed out both of the republican and democratic primaries in the country holding the primaries on the same day, so obviously a cooperation at least on that level in terms of the cooperation of the primary state. guest 1: yes, yes, agreed. talking about countries that parties, the national parties have weakened over the decade. it is stacked against you if you are going to try to run against the president as an independent or third party candidate. go back to 9092, ross perot ended up with most of the
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but endedotes up with 0 electoral votes. it makes it virtually impossible for a third arty to run for the white house. o. kay henderson, is it any easier for an independent approach the caucuses in iowa? those are republican and democratic caucuses, correct? guest 1: they are, and you have a lot of questions. they were a lot of questions sanders -- are you a democrat democrat, or are you a democrat socialist? a name we have not mentioned over the course of the past 60 minutes, michael bloomberg, somebody who was mayor of new york, well-known, well-known businessman. he has been a democrat, he has been a registered independent, and he came to iowa a few weeks ago and said that he is seriously considering running for president. he would be able to self
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finance, because of his wealth. and you have senator warren this our weekend say that nomination should not be for sale, a reference not only to michael bloomberg but to tom stier, the california businessman, who has been all over the country holding these need to impeach events. he will be here the following week. kay, a lot of people mentioned wanting to run, putting their toe in the water, doesn't ever feel like some of them are just doing it because they want to get their name out there, and it is not really a serious attempt at running or entering the caucuses there in iowa? guest 1: short answer -- yes. longer answer is people run for many different reasons. parlayed his finish in the 1988 iowa caucuses into a leadership role in the
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u.s. house of representatives. some folks run because they are aiming for perhaps a cabinet position from whoever may win the nomination of the presidency. so there are all sorts of reasons people run. to promote a book, whatever. so each person brings with them a group of aims that perhaps they don't explain fully to voters or to the media. host: let's get one more called here and we will get some final thoughts from both of you. from virginia, democrats line. go ahead. caller: good morning. i will try to make a quick. i lean democrat, but after the last election, i am more of an independent. mitt romneys about and how the gop party claims to be so far right christian. mitt romney is a mormon, he is a mormon pastor, and mormons are
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not christians. they do not believe in the trinity, and they actually have their own book that they have written themselves. i think that the republican party needs to figure out whether they want to back him now. that is my comment. thank you for a much, people. host: paul steinhauser, we will start with you. what you were going to say previously, go ahead. with mitt romney and everyone was talking about his post"in the "washington in the last week. i think that all and may get some encouragement to other republicans who were considering it. and if for some reason donald trump is not on the ballot in 20, then it is a very different story for romney. as to the other caller who was talking about why some people run, i think this time around, we can have a large democratic field, 15, 20, maybe more candidates, a lot of people feel like -- why not?
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a lot of people have a shot. it will not take that much of a vote to win. on the democratic side, it is proportional. if you get 50% of the vote in any of these states, you will pick up delegates. i think that is why so many people are considering or taking steps for the nomination. host: o. kay henderson, wrapup thoughts this morning. guest 1: well, often times during the midst of a presidential term, the opposing party has a discussion about who is their best change agent. what confronts democrats this time around is not only are they selecting a change agent but someone who can be a true , and howr to triatrump does the party waste to have that competitor voice the philosophy of the party? iowather real question in
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is if someone in iowa is if someone indeed will come into challenge president trump, and if there will be others on caucus night, february 3, 2020, iowaet votes in the caucuses, those are the two main questions here facing iowans. the other question is -- where do independents go? barack obama brought a huge number of independents into the democratic party in late 2007 and on caucus night, january 3, 2008. willie democratic candidate this time around bring independents along. that is what we will be watching. host: a lot to watch for. we look forward to this conversation with you nex this year and more. o. kay henderson, radio iowa, and paul
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